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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:21 am
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Hi folks. I have a small project building i am doing. I am now designing the gutters and I have a spot that downspouts wont work. I would like to do a rain chain but they are always so plain. I happen to have lots of old copper wiring that i can make into links. Anywho, I am trying to find a good weave for it. Right know i have a box weave that i have put together to sample. It works pretty good and looks nice. I am wondering if there is something like the box only hollow in the center. Obviously this would be larger and more complicated with more rings. I have looked through the library and just got overwhelmed. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:36 am
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Depending on the expected waterflow I would go with a roundmail or fp6-1 chain made with a large AR. Something like 1/8" wire/rods with a 1"-2" ID.

This way it looks nice from a distance, and gives the water a nice "channel" to go down.


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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:45 am
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where do i find those in the library?

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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:52 am
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http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/fullpersian.shtml
http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/invertedround.shtml

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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:42 am
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They are both in MAIL's library along with tutorial links:
Full Persian: http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/weavedisplay.php?key=44
Roundmaille: http://www.mailleartisans.org/weaves/weavedisplay.php?key=15

Martin's links go to Phong's excellent tutorial site, not to the library here. Also, the second link is for Inverted Round and not Roundmaille. But Inverted Round is a good weave too.


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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:02 am
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Very cool idea, and a truly unique use of the art! Cudos to you!


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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:06 am
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Martin wrote:
http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/fullpersian.shtml
http://cgmaille.com/tutorials/invertedround.shtml

Just to clarify, you said roundmaille earlier and then linked inverted round, which is not quite the same thing. For roundmaille, see the link the lorraine provided. Also, full persian will not be a hollow tube. Not sure if that is a critical requirement, though.

Did you see the Japanese Rain Chains in our weave library? Is this the kind that you are saying is too plain for your purposes?

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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:19 am
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I know, I though Phong had a copy of roundmaile up there, but he didnt; so I linked the next best weave, inverted round =D


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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:19 am
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The two rain chains I made are a large-AR Harvest Moon, and a large oval-ring Sprial chain (that holds its shape due to the oval rings used). Both look (and work) well.

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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:11 pm
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ZiLi
could you post links to those weaves?
Thanks everyone for your help. It is wonderful to have such a good resource with so many kind people. I haven't yet had a chance to go through the weaves yet, but i am sure one will work well.
I dont know that the weave needs to be totally hollow but at least partially.
Any other suggestions are appreciated!
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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:58 pm
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it doesnt need to be hollow. the water will trail along the rings to their bottom. just look at this rain chain:

http://www.instructables.com/image/FIK51UZF25MEE54/Copper-Rain-Chain.jpg
it's from this instructables page

one thing i saw in the comments is that with chains like this, you can angle it slightly and most of the water will follow the angle.

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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:29 pm
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I was thinking semi hollow because rain chains tend to splash a lot when flow increases, thought it wouldn't be as bad it some of the water could flow inside.

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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:08 pm
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what about Inverted Round or captured inverted round? you can't get much more circular than that. Plus, it's hollow.

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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:52 pm
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Sorry - while I like to help, I won't support too much laziness.

So only caused by the fact that Harvest Moon is to be found only by its alternate name 'Tomato Sandwich' in our database, I'll give you the direct LINK for it. The result that turns up contains links to tutorials.

And Spiral is known as Spiral 4-1 - there are tutorial links as well. Please note that Spiral unwinds, except one of a couple of possible measures is taken: Use of oval links, doubling the rings to get a self-sufficient 'Double Spiral' chain, use of D-shaped wire for making the rings, or simply affixing the chain at both ends, while it's twisted. Else the Spiral chain will unwind to a simple 'Jacob's ladder' - but that is also not a really bad choice for rain chains.

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Posted on Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:37 pm
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Thanx ZiLi
Will continue my endeavor with the library search engine, not much luck so far. I think that maybe there is a lot of technical language that i dont get. I copy and paste the weaves suggested and i get tons of results but none that match the name!? I guess, like anything else, it will get easier with time.

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