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Posted on Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:47 am
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Hiya, I'm looking to put together a list of the 100 most common weaves,

If there already is such a list, please point me to it (and save me much time).

Otherwise you can help me by listing weaves that you think should go in such a list. I've put down 10 i think should be in the list, hope you'll add some more.

I'm planning to use the list for maille code v2.0

(btw if this post shouldn't be in the knitting circle forum could a mod move it to the appropriate place, thanks).

100 common weaves
1. european 4n1
2. european 6n1
3. knigsmaille
4. japanese 4n1
5. japanese 6n1
6. half persian 3n1
7. full persian 4n1
8. jpl 3n1
9. roundmaille
10. captured inverted roundmaille (CIR)

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Maille Code V2.0 T5.4 R4.5 Eo.p Fj12.2 MFe.s Wg$i C$p G0.5-1.5 I1.2-10.8 N16.16 Pt Dcejt Xa6g14 S07 Hc
Articles - Byzantine Speed Weaving - Poor Man's Tumbler - Ring Jig - Turk's Head Knot Ring - Wire Winding
Maille - Belt - Choker w. Padlock - Collar - Collar with Twist - Cuffs - Cuff 2 - Decorative Chains - DS Belt - Maille Cuffs - Micro Ring - T Shirt - Vambrace - Watch Band - Watch Chain
Non-maille - Ring - Ring Mk II

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Posted on Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:00 am
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Heres a few more:

Box Chain
Byzantine
Dragon scale
Elf weave
Elf sheet
Full Persian 6-1
HP3S6
HP3S4
Inverted Round
Spiral 4-1
Spiral 6-1

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Posted on Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:47 am
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Another is maybe celtic filigree (i believe that's its name)


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Posted on Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:43 am
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So what book, website, or project is this for?


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Posted on Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:28 am
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It's for maille code (you'll see it in some of the signatures here) it provides info about the type of maille the poster has done, if you click on the maille code link it will give you some more info.


Maille Code V2.0 T5.4 R4.5 Eo.p Fj12.2 MFe.s Wg$i C$p G0.5-1.5 I1.2-10.8 N16.16 Pt Dcejt Xa6g14 S07 Hc
Articles - Byzantine Speed Weaving - Poor Man's Tumbler - Ring Jig - Turk's Head Knot Ring - Wire Winding
Maille - Belt - Choker w. Padlock - Collar - Collar with Twist - Cuffs - Cuff 2 - Decorative Chains - DS Belt - Maille Cuffs - Micro Ring - T Shirt - Vambrace - Watch Band - Watch Chain
Non-maille - Ring - Ring Mk II

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Posted on Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:39 am
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I would add:

European 8 in 1
Japanese 3 in 1
Mobius Ball
Celtic Visions
Orchid
Voodoo


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Posted on Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:39 am
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I'm not sure about 100 'most common'...

Of the 900+ 'weaves' that MAIL archives, I'm not sure there's even a full hundred that are actual 'parent weaves' and not merely 'variations'...

Perhaps a list confined to 25 or so might be more practical, just a thought.

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Posted on Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:12 am
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Thanks.

if there is less than 100 common weaves i'll happily use a smaller list,
the main thing is i'd like a list that is consistent that people can use when working out their maille code.


Maille Code V2.0 T5.4 R4.5 Eo.p Fj12.2 MFe.s Wg$i C$p G0.5-1.5 I1.2-10.8 N16.16 Pt Dcejt Xa6g14 S07 Hc
Articles - Byzantine Speed Weaving - Poor Man's Tumbler - Ring Jig - Turk's Head Knot Ring - Wire Winding
Maille - Belt - Choker w. Padlock - Collar - Collar with Twist - Cuffs - Cuff 2 - Decorative Chains - DS Belt - Maille Cuffs - Micro Ring - T Shirt - Vambrace - Watch Band - Watch Chain
Non-maille - Ring - Ring Mk II

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Posted on Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:45 pm
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Daemon_Lotos wrote:
I'm not sure about 100 'most common'...

Of the 900+ 'weaves' that MAIL archives, I'm not sure there's even a full hundred that are actual 'parent weaves' and not merely 'variations'...

Perhaps a list confined to 25 or so might be more practical, just a thought.


I still haven't figured out why some people worry about the difference between "parent weaves" and "variations". If you want to get picky then ALL weaves are simply varients of 2-1 since that is the "grand-daddy of all chains" and, if you remove a certain amount of rings from any weave, you can reduce it to a simple 2-1 chain. Very Happy

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Posted on Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:30 am
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cliffordparker wrote:
If you want to get picky then ALL weaves are simply varients of 2-1 since that is the "grand-daddy of all chains" and, if you remove a certain amount of rings from any weave, you can reduce it to a simple 2-1 chain. Very Happy


Well, I can't really agree with that. It's like saying there's no point in calling bears and ducks different families of species because if you stick them in a cuisinart and blend them up it's all the same chemicals.

I hope no one does this, just an example Razz


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Posted on Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:27 am
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Blaise wrote:
Well, I can't really agree with that. It's like saying there's no point in calling bears and ducks different families of species because if you stick them in a cuisinart and blend them up it's all the same chemicals.

I hope no one does this, just an example Razz


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Seriously though... You have to draw a distinction between a parent weave and a variation somewhere.
You're right though, the grand-parent of every maille family *IS* 2-1 chain... Then you've got the direct 'head' of each of the major families... Then the basic weaves in said families, then variations thereof, etc etc etc
This is the maille 'family tree'. Very Happy

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Posted on Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:11 am
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Between yours and AdrianHills list, I'd add these that I do on a regular basis, always on my show tables....not that they're all common...there are many not-so-common ones I do like to have available for my fancy shows, but these are the most common ones that should be included in the code, imo...

Turkish Round-
Viperscale-
and maybe Louhi-

Kodiak-


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Posted on Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:03 am || Last edited by anon on Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:27 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Ok, thanks to those who put the effort into posting ...

The current list for use with Maille Code 2.0 is

Box Chain
Byzantine
Captured Inverted Roundmaille (CIR)
Celtic Filigree
Celtic Visions
Dragon scale
Elf Sheet
Elf Weave
European 4 in 1
European 6 in 1
European 8 in 1
Full Persian 6 in 1
Half Persian 3 in 1
Half Persian 3 Sheet 6
Half Persian 3 Sheet 4
Half Persian 4 in 1
Inverted Round
Japanese 3 in 1
Japanese 4 in 1
Japanese 6 in 1
JPL 3
Kingsmaille
Louhi
mobius ball©
Orchid
Roundmaille
Spiral 4-1
Spiral 6-1
Turkish Round
Viperscale
Voodoo

(31 weaves)

You can request that Weaves are added to this list,
which will be done during maille code updates.


Maille Code V2.0 T5.4 R4.5 Eo.p Fj12.2 MFe.s Wg$i C$p G0.5-1.5 I1.2-10.8 N16.16 Pt Dcejt Xa6g14 S07 Hc
Articles - Byzantine Speed Weaving - Poor Man's Tumbler - Ring Jig - Turk's Head Knot Ring - Wire Winding
Maille - Belt - Choker w. Padlock - Collar - Collar with Twist - Cuffs - Cuff 2 - Decorative Chains - DS Belt - Maille Cuffs - Micro Ring - T Shirt - Vambrace - Watch Band - Watch Chain
Non-maille - Ring - Ring Mk II

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Posted on Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:23 pm
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Helm Chain
Byzee Beez to Butterflys
GSG
Dragonback
Dybbuk Ridge

to name a few more of my more common ones not already on the list


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Posted on Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:37 pm
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I don't want to sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet but Aura is used a lot.


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