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Posted on Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:32 am
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I tried Elf weave for the first time the other day and made a complete mess of it. I'm not sure I had the correct size rings. I used 1.2mm wire, 4mm ID.

Any suggestions? I'm determined to figure it out!

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Posted on Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:53 am
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I think most people work with an AR between 4.0 and 5.0. The AR (id/wire diameter) you're working with is 3.33, which I'm pretty sure is too small for Elfweave to work well.

If you're using 1.2mm wire, try going with a 5mm id (AR=4.17). That should help a lot. But if you're still having a hard time, post again with an explaination of what doesn't seem to be working for you. That's what this is here for. Smile

Good luck!

And let us know if that makes it any easier.


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Posted on Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:23 am
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I was actually making some elfweave last night, with 18swg 3/16 ID black stainless (1.2mm x 4.8mm, measured AR of 4) from Rings of Steel. I've also used 18swg 3/16 ID stainless (1.2mm x 5.25mm, measured AR of 4.375) from TRL and it worked great as well.

I think anything with an AR of 4.8 or higher would be kinda loose, but might make the weaving easy. The trouble I had with elfweave is getting it started, after about 10 rings it gets pretty stable. Make sure you add a piece of starter chain (1-1-1) to hold onto and maintain the orientation of the initial ring setup. It took me 4 tries to get it started correctly because of the rings shifting. BTW, one row of elfweave will tend to 'square up', that is the weave will compress inward and upward and lose the elfweave profile. You really need to turn it into elfsheet to get it to remain oriented. 3 rows of the 3/16 rings I used is 1" wide, and looks very masculine. If you want something more delicate, you'd need to go with a much smaller ID ring, while maintaining the AR (see yukio's ring in the new additions to the Gallery).


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Posted on Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:50 am || Last edited by Corvus on Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
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The size I use most for Elfweave is 1mm wire 4mm ID 1.2mm in 4mm ID is a bit big.
Try again with thinner wire or slightly larger rings.


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Posted on Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:21 pm
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Legba3 wrote:
Try again with thinner wire or slightly smaller rings.


I suppose you mean thinner wire or larger rings? Wink


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Thanks!
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Posted on Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:19 pm
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I'll give it another go this weekend. Actually, I'll have plenty of time to work on it - my company is on unpaid furlough for 2 weeks.

I think I'll try the larger rings to see if that helps.

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Posted on Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:20 pm
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Zjef wrote:
Legba3 wrote:
Try again with thinner wire or slightly smaller rings.


I suppose you mean thinner wire or larger rings? Wink


Doh! Yes I did mean that...going to edit now.


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No luck
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Posted on Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:03 pm
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I tried it again with the larger rings and just couldn't get it. This is a time when I need to see it in person before I can get it. I'm not giving up yet!

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Posted on Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:24 pm
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That's the spirit!

Are you working on the chain or the sheet?


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Posted on Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:36 pm
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Does anyone live in Ohio?

Talia, I'm trying to make a bracelet.

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Posted on Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:34 pm
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boudica wrote:
Does anyone live in Ohio?

Talia, I'm trying to make a bracelet.


I'm in Hillsboro, between Cincy and Chillicothe.


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Posted on Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:40 pm
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http://www.cgmaille.com/tutorials/elfweave.shtml

That's the one I learned from. I never had problems with figuring it out from that example.

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Posted on Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:54 am
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boudica wrote:
I tried it again with the larger rings and just couldn't get it. This is a time when I need to see it in person before I can get it. I'm not giving up yet!


I need the directions for elfweave right in front of me every time. I tend to get lost at the part where you flip it over. It is very easy to get lost in the first few sections. Maybe try pinning it down so it doesn't move, or some other method of stabilizing it. Some folks use a fine gauge wire to hold everything together. Do what you have to do, and once you get it, it flows very well.

Then move right on to elfsheet!

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Posted on Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:38 am
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Boudica-

Not sure if this will help or not, but if you can do Gridlock, it just might. A couple of weeks ago I posted instructions on how to do Elfweave starting from Gridlock. If you try it, I'd love to know if it works for you. It's just the chain, not the sheet weave, and it doesn't involve the flipping.
http://www.mailleartisans.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=12231


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Thanks Talia
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Posted on Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:22 am
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I'LL definitely try your method out. I won't have time until the middle of the week, but will let you know how it turns out.

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