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Posted on Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:45 pm
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As already shown here in the thread '1000 Rings Maille Maille', I made JPL5 from rings made of JPL5.
Now I made a ring from that...


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Stats: 4750 rings BA 1.0mm coiled on 11/64" mandrel, final ID ~4.55mm; AR~4.55; woven to 50 JPL5 rings with 95 rings each, that were woven to that single ring. And yes: I's fairly rigid - if you already have read the other thread, you may note that the number of rings per large ring was reduced from 100 to 95 - I did this to reduce their AR...

BTW: That final ring's stats are: 'WD'~35mm, ID~70mm; AR~2...

-ZiLi-


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Posted on Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:05 am
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"THE ONE RING"

lol. now you need to make the rest of it. add more the the mesh. one ring..bahh cannot call it LOTR with only one ring.

good work thou. more then i would have done.


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Posted on Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:29 am
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A Christmas wreath! Very Happy


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Posted on Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:46 am
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oh no, dont' be giveing people that idea now.


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Posted on Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:15 am
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I am in complete awe of your skills.

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Posted on Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:41 am
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Amazing ZiLi. Can you give us an idea of the size?



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Posted on Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:57 am || Last edited by ZiLi on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:52 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Pfeiffer: I told about in my opening post: Given a "wire diameter" of ~3.5cm, and a ring ID of ~7cm, you get an outer diameter of ~14cm - you may stretch to ~16 or compress to ~12cm to get an elliptical ring, but not more without beginning to bend small rings open. But that needs already a bit effort, as JPL5 tends to spread forces amongst multiple rings. It's a fairly rigid one, and please do NOT ask too much how I managed to set the last eight rings (the 4 join rings each of the last two large ones) - but it's a four-letter word beginning with 'Pi' and ending with 'ta'... Very Happy

BTW: I might add four Hilt-4 or Hilt-5 segments as candle holders, temporarily for the holidays - thanks lorraine for that idea...

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Posted on Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:35 pm
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Aww, the final ring's AR is too small. I was gonna suggest that you use that ring to start a new JPL5 ring made from rings like this... But I knew you would hate that idea anyway.

My knowledge of metric may be a little rusty, but isn't the overall size less than 6 inches? Is that really big enough to have candleholders? Now if you were to make one more JPL chain out of rings like this... Coif LoL

Oh, and, that is really cool, ZiLi. I shall add it onto the list of things I never want to do, lest I go insane. That, and it's been done before, and I usually like to try new things.

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Posted on Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:07 pm
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Vorondil: I may be a bit insane - from time to time - but I'm surely not totally nuts. So a rework to get a higher AR (I would need 90 instead of 50 rings, and these had to have 90 instead of 95 small rings to be even more rigid and already a bit oval distorted) is totally out of question, as well as making several of these rings, arranged in a JPL5 pattern.F or me it suffices fully to know being able to do that - if I only wished to do so.

About the candleholder idea: There are small candles available...

-ZiLi-


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Human societies are like chain mail.
A single link will be worth nothing.
A chain is of use, but will break at the weakest link.
A weak weave will have the need to replace weak links.
A strong weave will survive even with weak links included.
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Posted on Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:34 pm
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ZiLi wrote:
So a rework to get a higher AR [...] is totally out of question

See, I told you would hate the idea. And that's just for remaking the one ring. That doesn't include the work involved in creating a similar, larger ring out more of those rings. Hmm, maybe that would be better for a group project... Or not. Idk.

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Posted on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:26 am
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ZiLi - I was asking the overall size of the finished piece. Is it like 20cm across the big diameter? Take a picture with your hand or a ruler then we can see how big it is overall.



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Posted on Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:17 am
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Pfeiffer wrote:
ZiLi - I was asking the overall size of the finished piece. Is it like 20cm across the big diameter? Take a picture with your hand or a ruler then we can see how big it is overall.


Please re-read my previous post - I told there about the ring's outer diameter - ~14cm; and usually outer diameters are determined by measuring across... Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy


-ZiLi-


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Human societies are like chain mail.
A single link will be worth nothing.
A chain is of use, but will break at the weakest link.
A weak weave will have the need to replace weak links.
A strong weave will survive even with weak links included.
-'me

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Posted on Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:27 pm
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LOTR has got a little brother ...

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... and this one is really rigid.

Stats: JPL3 (and not JPL5 as before) ring made of 30 rings, that were made of 65-ring JPL5 strips (to get the right, lower AR), so the total ring count is only 1950. Basic rings are 1.2mm BA coiled on 13/64" mandrel, sawcut, final AR~4.55. Outer diameter of large ring is (measured for Pfeiffer)Very Happy around four and a half inches...

-ZiLi-


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Human societies are like chain mail.
A single link will be worth nothing.
A chain is of use, but will break at the weakest link.
A weak weave will have the need to replace weak links.
A strong weave will survive even with weak links included.
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Posted on Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:33 pm
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Surprised Now we have a candle holder for hobbits ^^

I hope Frodo will appreciate it Laughing

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Posted on Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:33 am
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Zili that is Awesome!!!! the second one is even cooler

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