Ar=3.125 change 3.9, because of AWG wire
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Am i crasy for using this size of rings 14gu 1/4 inch ar=3.125
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Posted on Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:06 pm
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drac0 what are you talking about

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Posted on Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:09 pm
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I was having problems remember what ferrous meant :p now I remember

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Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:57 pm
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well, i am using electric fence wire, so it might be awg. but like i said earlier that the wire i am using is smaller then 2mm so it is probably awg

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Posted on Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:40 pm
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Aderamelech wrote:

Really? This may well be the case. I'm a little surprised though, because I've been making E-4-1 with aluminum rings in this size, and I didn't get much for springback when coiling that wire. I'll grant that it is a very tight 4-1, which pretty much has be to be woven one ring at a time.

Of course with added vaugeries of the different gauge systems, slightly different madril sizes, etc. it's hard to say that my rings are exactly the same size as yours (or anyone else's).


Yeah, I was basing my estimates off of my experiences with 14g swg 1/4, and you are right about the mandrels, for when I coil with more tension, there is less springback (wow! I wonder why Very Happy ). Returning to the subject, depending on the exact specs of your rings, different weaves are available, but at low ARs, the hairswidth makes all the difference. It would still go very slowly at that size, and seams wooul be impractical, so I still think step up to 5/16.


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Posted on Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:29 am
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i tried half persion 3-1 and it didnt work

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Posted on Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:08 am
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It takes some getting used to...you have three rings, flip one the "wrong way" and then add one open one closed..close the open and it may keep shape....it takes some practice...

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Posted on Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:29 am
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i have done it already, but the rings don't lay agenst each other, and i was doing it right

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Posted on Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:56 am
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I don't think you can make hp3-1 with 14g, 1/4 rings, all else being equal. The lower limit, as far as I am aware, is around 14g, 5/16.

The ferrous non-ferrous distinction between systems usually works, but it does fail in at least one instance, and that is for electrical fence wire. This is the stuff one can buy at Agway in 17 and 14 gauge. In this case, the sizes of aluminum marked 14 and 17 are the same sizes as the galvanized steel marked in the same way.

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Posted on Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:57 pm
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what is agway

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