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Posted on Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:21 pm
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I was thinking (bad way to start). Can a basket be made using 4-1 triangular expantion? Becuase you could make say, six triangles then add on an extra eight inches straight and stitch up the sides. Wouldn't that make a standing basket it it was done to the right AR?


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Posted on Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:29 am
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I've used the European 4 in 1 triangular expansions on basket 10 for the bottom. I've never personally used European 4 in 1 for basket sides, but plan to one day. I don't know of anyone else who has.

Definitely a tight AR though, like using 3/16" ID, .063 (which I do a lot of inlay work out of). You can take a piece of it and roll it up and if you connect two of the rows together (just like I do when I go around a rod that I would use for hanging an inlay), then you can push that piece of maille into a circle that would be stable enough for basket sides, as long as it's not too long.


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Posted on Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:28 pm
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This is what I had in mind:



Basically, there are nine rows of European 4 in 1 with 3/16", .063 rings, and the next row is that of 11/64", .048 stainless steel rings. That row connects the edge back onto itself, kinda like roundmaille, but with more rows.

3/16" rings would work too, 11/64" is an odd size that not everyone has.


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Posted on Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:02 pm
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and i thought a 5/32 was hard to find... acctually there ius not a place within 100+ miles that carrys 5/32" barstock... (grumbles and kicks a rock, then limps off swearing about his suddenly pained foot)

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Posted on Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:43 am
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hhhmmm...
This has me thinking...
To combat the side strength issue, you could make a frame out of CIR or RIR and then let the 4-1 drape down. With the supports at each point of the expansion...
interesting (strokes white cat with diamond collar)


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Posted on Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:48 pm
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That is a definite possibility. The CIR weave is extremely rigid, and excellent for most any chainmail sculptural applications, baskets included. This is a technique Chuck Doyle used on his basket (with stunning results): http://www.wiretheskiesblue.com/chainmail.htm


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