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Posted on Sun Apr 06, 2003 2:52 am
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Last year, I had a chain hacky sack design, could someone send me one please, seeing as I lost mine, thanks

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Chain hacky-sack; Hana-gusari
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Posted on Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:15 am
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Hacky sacks? These are fairly easily done in one of about five different manners, but I'll teach you how to do one that should be quite simple, and actually useable. It doesn't quite form up round (Left lying flat, it's a vaguely hexagonal disc, quite floppy), but it works nicely. I'd recommend 18 gauge stainless, but 18 gauge galvanized will work. Don't use anything soft like copper.

First, you'll want 1/4" links, probably 200 or so. Start with three open rings, close them, and build twelve rings onto those three in a Japanese 6-in-1 (hana-gusari) pattern. This forms a 12-through-3 pattern hexagonally. Now, start extending it into the basic Japanese 6-in-1 pattern until you have a hexagon of two rows.

Set this piece aside and grab more links. Repeat the above, and pick them up. Do NOT attach the halves together by the vertical links, as this will result in a very flat, dull and boring pancake. Take the horizontal links, pull them inwards (important that you pull IN and not OUT), and connect them as if you were extending the pattern.

Brief instructions, but I hope they were helpful.

Or-- you can go for denser, more complex, and extend a 5-through-1 modified Japanese pattern, but that, I will describe later when I can put some illustrations to it. That method, produces a sphere.


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Posted on Fri Jul 04, 2003 7:14 am
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hmm.. look up the japanese 5-1 weave. it is a dodecahedron.. more or less a sphere in the maille world.. and make it larger by bordering all ofthe 5-1 stitches with 6-1 stitches. the simple rule.

if the stitch you're putting in is touching a 5-1 stitch, it is 6-1. if it touches all 6-1 stitches, it is a 5-1. and build it in a circle. you cna start with either 5-1 or 6-1 it matters not.

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Posted on Mon Jul 07, 2003 6:00 pm
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I actually finished about 30 hacky sacks recently. My design takes exactly 254 rings of 16 gauge 1/4" size in a standard European 4-in-1 pattern. I wish it could have been 256 rings, just so I could hit 2 to the 8th power. Yes, I'm pure geek. Smile

Make a piece of maille into a loop, 24 rings across and 9 rows high (216 rings). On one end, constrict the 24 down to 12, then the 12 down to 6, then connect the 6 to a single end ring. Note: to cap the end ring onto the 6 that are left, you'll have to reopen one of the six because the end weave is tight. Start to do that one the other side, but when you finish three out of the six end rings on the other side, put in your fill. I like using yellow corn kernels (don't use white kernels, they actually can slip between the rings). Then, close it up.

When completed, it will be roundish, depending on how much fill you use, but it should be pretty round. I put a picture on the Gallery, check it out.



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Posted on Wed Jul 09, 2003 12:28 am
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Kim,
That would be the basic shape of a soccer ball.

RunVitki,
Suggestions to add two more rings:
- double that last ring on either side (queen ring). It might even be stronger that way.
- use corn kernels and two rings as filling.
Now you do have the equivalent of 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2 Very Happy

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Posted on Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:13 am
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can i make a euro 4:1 hack?


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Posted on Sun Oct 26, 2003 8:15 pm
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can you make a euro 4-1 hack? sure, it should be possible. the first two hacks I made were euro, so it can be done. I found that euro does not hold up well to being kicked around though... rings at the poles, connecting to the queen ring (well stimpy, all the other beans are the worker beans... the giant white bean is the queen bean! well now, all the other rings are the worker rings, the big rings at the end are the queen rings... eh, what was I saying?) oh yeah, the rings connected to the queen ring and other rings near the poles seemed open up more often than the other rings. I've found that jap weaves work and hold up the best

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Posted on Sun Oct 26, 2003 8:47 pm
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someone watches waaaaaaay too much tv Laughing


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Posted on Mon Oct 27, 2003 12:04 am
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RunVitki, you could make them 256 by doubling the queen rings on either end :p


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Posted on Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:47 am
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I tried that - but with 16g 1/4" rings, the six rings holding the center ring in place are too thick (AR problem) to get an extra ring in there.



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Posted on Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:19 am
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dang all i can (and want) to get is 16G i have like 1000 more ft of it. what ID should i use for a 4:1 hack?


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Posted on Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:02 pm
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if you look oen post up, you'll see that 1/4'' works nicely.

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Posted on Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:01 am
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oops Very Happy


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Posted on Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:53 pm
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the kid wrote:
can i make a euro 4:1 hack?


All of the Hacks I make are Euro 4in1

Typically, I use 14g galvy 3/8" ID.

Start with 9 rings on the queen ring, and expand until you have 2 rows of 18.
Make another with the grain going the opposite direction of the first one.
Connect with standard euro 4in1.
Flys well, lays flat.
Wouldn't recommend hacking barefoot though. Very Happy
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Posted on Sat Nov 08, 2003 4:48 am
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#10 stainless lockwashers make quite good hacks



In the above, I used #8 to make the 5-in-1 connections, but often I just leave those open - makes for a more floppy sack, easier to stall..

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