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Posted on Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:24 pm
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I feel I should elaborate a bit more on the Compass Rose. It’s not all that bad. Once the captives are firmly placed, they’re at least somewhat secure. It takes a bit of force to get them out. I carried one around for a day in my pocket with also a bunch of keys- like 10 or so. It stayed intact. It would probably be fine as a pendant, but if it got struck, or fell to the floor, the captives could dislodge. It’s very ring size specific, and the size of the captives should be as big OD-wise as they can. Funny and coincidental that 2 standard ring sizes (i.e. not going down to /128, /64, or even /32) plus nominal ID increase due to springback happen to make it work.

I changed the listed ideal ARs, since they were a bit shy. Begrudgingly, though, as I don’t agree that multiple wire diameter-using entries should have ANY AR data listed. But that’s a different discussion for a different day. Or probably has come up before.


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Posted on Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:14 pm
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Regarding multiple wire sizes, I wholeheartedly agree.

While weaves such as dragonscale make it quite obvious that multiple AR are necessary, inherently; I cannot recall any weave that requires multiple wire sizes by nature.


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Posted on Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:57 pm
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Karpeth wrote:
I cannot recall any weave that requires multiple wire sizes by nature.


Devil's Stitch

Jokes aside, the only situation that would require multiple wire sizes would be one that has a cousin interaction similar to Jens Pind Linkage (an interaction sensitive to WD and ID). I don't think there exists a weave that meets that criteria yet.

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I also noticed Compass Rose is not tagged as Captive. Was that an oversight?


Yes. It's rather clear that the central rings are captive.


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Posted on Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:52 pm
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ugh.

That weave is one of the ones I forget as soon as possible.

That, and a few other weaves, are so... special ...I force myself to forget them.


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Posted on Fri May 31, 2019 3:23 pm
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I just made a 10 unit long Hoodoo chain. Measured AR 2.9.

I measured most of the rings with a digital caliper. This piece is more prone to moving than My 3.0 AR silver bracelet.

:S


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Posted on Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:25 am
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Karpeth wrote:
I just made a 10 unit long Hoodoo chain. Measured AR 2.9.

I measured most of the rings with a digital caliper. This piece is more prone to moving than My 3.0 AR silver bracelet.

:S


ARs can be a funny thing. I don’t know how to explain that one though. Confused
Just out of curiosity, what wire diameters were used for each Hoodoo?


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Hoodoo Dodecahedron
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Posted on Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:28 am
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I recently assembled a Hoodoo Dodecahedron. It was started using the same method as Hoodoo Web, except having web openings five cells long instead of six.

I used .062 (1.57mm) bright aluminum, 11/64” (4.37mm) mandrel wound rings.
ID: .188”
AR of 3.0

Once it started to curve, I noticed that the degree of curve was different from front to back. Each side of this “sheet” has a slightly different appearance, as with aforementioned Hoodoo Web, and I used the more forgiving one. The other way ought to work at a slightly larger AR.

It was actually quite easy to close off, and is very attractive in my opinion.

I know I usually post a picture for things like this, but not at the moment. Photobucket is being funny lately and made my pics in other posts show up blurry. I don’t know if it’s because I edit out the URL part, or what. Maybe they want people to click to go to their site so they can look at ads, or whatever, but that’s speculation. I may look into it at some point.

I’m sure this (the Hoodoo Dodecahedron being possible) is not surprising to some, since it uses an established concept, but I thought I’d mention it for anyone looking for a fun little 240(?) ring project. I get slightly confused counting rings in these things (dodecahedrons), but I think it’s a (6*20+4*30) ring count.

This one in “16SWG” wire ended up slightly north of 1.5 inches in diameter and is a relatively solid ball. Scale WD up or down as you see fit.

A picture will end up in the gallery sometime.


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Posted on Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:20 pm
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Chainmailbasket_com wrote:
Karpeth wrote:
I just made a 10 unit long Hoodoo chain. Measured AR 2.9.

I measured most of the rings with a digital caliper. This piece is more prone to moving than My 3.0 AR silver bracelet.

:S


ARs can be a funny thing. I don’t know how to explain that one though. Confused
Just out of curiosity, what wire diameters were used for each Hoodoo?


Both were 1mm WD; however, the silver was hand wound and the copper power wound.

However, I have remeasured the rings, due to a possible calibration error, giving me 2.96 as the maximum AR it could be.

If these rings are 2.96, then My E4-1 in 2.83 is in 2.83. Would the AR be lower than 2.96, then My 2.83 rings could not be used in E4-1.


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