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Posted on Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:31 pm
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Regarding my lack of post of pictures;

I am hesitant to post pictures here, because I don't want to "hijack" your post. I also am hesitant regarding posting a new thread, as I feel like I don't have enough material to "show": I haven't made any riveted rings yet, as I will need to burn my rings as they otherwise would do unnecessary damage to my small makeshift tool.

And I don't have a torch to burn them to such a temperature required. This is the state I'm currently in. I am looking for alternatives right now.

I will, however, try to make some rings regardless, using this tool, sometime this weekend. By that time I might post a new thread with the results as well as pictures of the tool.

Loving the look of your coif, riveted maille has always fascinated me! Keep up the good work! Coif Smiley


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Posted on Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:17 pm || Last edited by Noel on Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:18 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted on Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:17 pm
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Couldn't open it for some reason. I got a message saying I needed to ask permission??


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Posted on Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:46 pm || Last edited by Noel on Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:19 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted on Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:05 pm
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I am just starting the process of making several patches of my maile.
Tests will be conducted and documented for the manual. This will include attacks from thrusting and slicing weapons.
These tests will be captured on video and will be performed by western martial arts expert, historian and instructor, Matt of Schola Gladiatoria

I recommend his you tube page
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt14YOvYhd5FCGCwcjhrOdA

The maile will take a while to produce for the tests so cant say exactly when they will be carried out.

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Posted on Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:28 pm
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Very well written paper regarding the subject. Very thoroughly explained! Great job, looking forward to see those tests!

*EDIT* Some letters seem to have gone missing. That might just be a problem on my end, but you might want to check that up. It happened quite frequently throughout the paper.


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My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/wpa09
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Posted on Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:50 pm
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It may have something to do with the font. I will reformat the document with a legacy font instead. The hosting site seems to have downgraded the quality of the document, not too happy about that either.

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Posted on Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:32 pm
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It's probably gonna take on average 4 days to make each patch
for the tests, though I cherry pick only the rings I'm most satisfied
with, a lot of rings simply don't make the grade.


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Posted on Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:58 pm
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impressive. How much time did you spend making those?

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Posted on Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:42 pm
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At a push, it would take around three days of hard slog to make one
patch, this is after manually coiling iron, which you should not do as
quickly compared to other metals, cutting each ring, manually
realigning each ring, flattening them, drifting, riveting and weaving.

Right now, 1 in every 15 to 20 rings will not make it past the drifting
stage, another 1 in every 15 to 20 wont make it past the riveting stage.
I also need to manually re-file my drifting tools and produce wedge
rivets along the way, some of which, will not make it into production.

Also

Every ring I produce is individually inspected to ensure that no
visually identical rings are present in a batch. This deviates from
other peoples styles of production because I am trying to produce
maile made in less than ideal conditions as it would have been hundreds
of years ago in order to get a look that has added authenticity over comparatively clean and modern looking maile.

For those reasons, my maile takes longer and I would expect to
be handsomely payed for it but not before it is thoroughly combat tested.


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Posted on Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:37 am
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What do you use or how do you make your rivets? I can find several articles on how to make rings but none seem to ever mention the rivets.

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