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Cis/trans?
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Posted on Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:44 pm
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Recently submitted to the gallery is My paddle.

http://www.mailleartisans.org/gallery/gallery_image.php?key=8766

Using CIRSS, the paddle is a cis sheet.
The handle, still CIRSS, uses a trans config, which gives it the 3D or Chain tag.

Is this enough to qualify as a new weave?

It is different enough to lose the sheet tag and gain Either 3D or Chain.


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Posted on Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:48 pm
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i see some kinky frat parties in your future. CIR has been used extensively as a structural weave.

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Posted on Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:32 pm
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Well, that's not what the question was about.

Is trans enough to make a new weave?


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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:22 am
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No, imo

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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:01 am
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Thank you for your input.


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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:35 am
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That's a fine piece of work sir. I do like the idea of not just leaving A mark. But leaving YOUR mark.

It's like signing a humiliation. Again not what you asked for but as you know by now; I'll compliment you if I want to and there is little you can do about it.

I think we're on the same page here.

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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:38 am
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Thanks.

On the same page? Do you believe it's a new weave or not?


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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:17 pm
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I don't believe that it's new, since I'm pretty sure it's the same as this:
http://mailleartisans.org/gallery/gallerydisplay.php?key=7611

I don't believe it's a weave of its own; only think of it as Staggered Captive Inverted Round Sheet. But that's my opinion.


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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2015 12:38 pm
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Oh; I meant new as in not in the library. That is the same.


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Posted on Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:48 am
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Karpeth wrote:
Oh; I meant new as in not in the library. That is the same.

The library consists of more than just weaves. I do not consider it a new "weave". I DO consider it worthy of being documented in the gallery, as it has been.


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Posted on Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:54 pm
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Karpeth wrote:
Thanks.

On the same page? Do you believe it's a new weave or not?


I think it has been done before. I was merely referring to the fact that we're a nasty pair of sadomasochists. (well technically retired, I had this horrible realisation about 10 years ago that the entire world was masochistic so to indulge myself I merely had to exist. It really took all the fun out of it.)

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Posted on Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:58 pm
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Thank you all for your answers. While I don't try to take credit for "first", i just Wanted to know what the Stance was on cis vs trans.

I Love the interactions between the hexagonal continous weaves. Razz

Namely, the adaptability; My Flogger, paddle and single-tail all flow free, and look without seams.


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Posted on Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:18 am
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i didnt really get the "cis, trans" reference to be honest those words have nothing to do with maille as i see them. i hope i extrapolated from your context correctly Very Happy

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Posted on Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:23 am
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Well, they are geometrical.

Cis means same side, and in a row of CIRSS, all connector rings stay on the same side. The Collumn keps alternating, tho.

Trans means opposite side, and in a row of collumnar CIRSS, the connector rings alternate between insida and outside. The Collumn still keeps alternating, as per IR properties.


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Posted on Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:09 pm
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djgm wrote:
i didnt really get the "cis, trans" reference to be honest those words have nothing to do with maille as i see them.


Hi djgm, I'm guessing you mean the other common usage i.e. whether you are currently the gender assigned at birth (cis), or have switched (trans). Actually on reflection I'm amazed that this is now common enough to be "common usage", that's some progress.

It's all metaphor anyhow, that's language for you. Smile

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