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Posted on Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:46 pm
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Abstain is a weave which has driven me crazy. It looks like a lovely simple weave from the description, but I CANNOT FIGURE IT OUT!

Please can someone make a tutorial? Or at the least, weave a sample which has different colours of link depending on the link's role in the structure?


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Posted on Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:12 am
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its two paralleled spiraled 1-1-1s with a third spiraling 1-1-1 interwoven in around eye connections ostensibly stitching the paralleled chains together.

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djgm wrote:
its two paralleled spiraled 1-1-1s with a third spiraling 1-1-1 interwoven in around eye connections ostensibly stitching the paralleled chains together.


Confused No, I'm afraid more words are just making me more confused. I need to SEE it.


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Posted on Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:49 pm
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While the structure is two 2in1 spiraled chains connected by spiraling rings, the best weaving method is imho the one that is told about the weave's discovery - based on Shaggy loops, but with linked-up shaggies. Try it - it's easy.

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I DID try it. Repeatedly! I need help! PLEASE!

I'm sure it's simple once you get it. I'm just NOT. Getting. It.


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Posted on Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:19 am
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here you are clear as mud, the green is the center chain from shaggy loops and the other two parallel spiraling 1-1-1s are the shaggy links that have been pinned down, hope this helps. http://www.flickr.com/photos/68156782@N02/10094127574/

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Posted on Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:22 am
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It might be easy for you... but I'm not getting it either.



Where do the next two rings go? "... but instead, wove each new set of rings diagonally through one of the previous pairs of rings and then the next ring through the other ring in the pair." makes no sense to me.


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Ah, maybe djgm's picture will help. Thank you!


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Posted on Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:26 am
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I finally managed to make some of this weave. Thank you again for the picture djgm. I can't for the life of me see anything Shaggy Loops about it though.


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lorraine wrote:
Where do the next two rings go? "... but instead, wove each new set of rings diagonally through one of the previous pairs of rings and then the next ring through the other ring in the pair." makes no sense to me.

Oh THANK YOU, I'm not alone!


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djgm wrote:
here you are clear as mud, the green is the center chain from shaggy loops and the other two parallel spiraling 1-1-1s are the shaggy links that have been pinned down, hope this helps. http://www.flickr.com/photos/68156782@N02/10094127574/

Thank you! That at least does make the structure clearer.
I shall study this and see what I can do.


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Posted on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:17 pm || Last edited by djgm on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:40 pm; edited 1 time in total
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i didnt start with shaggy loops btw, im not a fan of reopening links, it's probly the hardest part about making maille that can be avoided, i just made the shaggies all connect and built the green chain in the middle, however i would guess with tighter links you would need to insert the middle chain from the get go.

so I heard you like links.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/68156782@N02/10104002525/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68156782@N02/10104069133/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68156782@N02/10104069043/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/68156782@N02/10103967304/

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I made mine by making a length of 2 in 1 Chain and then adding pairs of rings that basically sandwich the 2 in 1 Chain into a consistent twist. Add the first by going through (down) the previous sandwich ring and around the eye of two core (2 in 1 Chain) rings. Then turning the chain over and doing exactly the same thing on the other side with the other sandwich ring and the same two core rings.


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ya i think thats what maille fantasy had in mind lorrain but i can just picture someone trying to take shaggy loops apart and put it together the other way and how frustrating that would be.

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djgm wrote:
ya i think thats what maille fantasy had in mind lorrain but i can just picture someone trying to take shaggy loops apart and put it together the other way and how frustrating that would be.

Exactly!

You should submit that as a tut. And I should try to take pictures of how I made it too. People learn in different ways and there can never be too many tuts. Very Happy


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