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The legendary brass flogger
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Posted on Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:32 am
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So...you know how I've been talking about this flogger for a year and never posting a picture? Well, I just had to take one to link it on another site so here it is:



The sharper eyed among you will notice that it only has seven falls. Yes, it's not done yet. BUT I thought since I was linking it one place I might as well link it here too. I'm not going to submit it to the gallery until it's finished, of course.

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Posted on Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:51 am
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OWWWWWWWWWWWWWAH!

Also, very nice! Very Happy


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Posted on Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:52 am
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Muahahaha!!

Also, thanks. Smile

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Posted on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:17 am
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Great piece. Very Happy

I guess I have to publish some of my newer ones as well - my production number has reached two digits, in the meanwhile...

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Posted on Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:39 am
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well done! is that a euro 6 in 1 wrap for the handle?



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Posted on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:16 pm
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The handle seems a tad thick to me. Is there any particular reason you made it that thick? I'm asking because I'm not sure if this is just an issue of taste, or if there's a structural issue I'm unaware of. I've made one flogger, and am thinking about making another, and that data would be helpful. Smile

Looks VERY nice, by the way!

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Posted on Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:38 pm
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I guess that simply happens. Having done already ten floogers, and (I think) four of them with an Euro6in1 handle, I always TRY to achieve a handle diameter inbetween one and one and a half inch. But the weave behavior, that is decided by the ring choice (or availability of appropriate ring sizes, if one has to rely on a ring supplier), does not always yield the wished result. So sometimes I get handles that are thinner, and sometimes ones that are thicker as I wish. And even my experience doesn't spare me from...

In the meanwhile I weave my handles a bit looser, so I can chose the sheet width much better to achieve the diameter, and stiffen the handle with a self coiled filler spring, that stretches the diameter, as well as the length. So I do not more need to rely on the tube woven sheet's stiffness.

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Posted on Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:43 pm
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Um. It's that thick because that's as tight as it can be for Euro 6-1? Seriously, it is not THAT thick. It feels perfect in my hand and I don't have big hands (I wear a medium glove). It's also not any bigger than a lot of the leather cats that I have seen people using. These, for instance: http://img0.etsystatic.com/002/0/7115282/il_fullxfull.358944132_tkuo.jpg

Commenting a bit further on the handle, it doesn't have anything at its core. I know that when I started making it, inspired by Zili's first few, he was putting a coil inside to make them a bit stiffer (as he noted just above) but I decided that I didn't need it in this one. The weave is quite tight and there's a little play, but not a ton. I coiled and cut my own rings so I didn't have to worry about variation from a supplier.

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Posted on Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:58 am
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Huh. It looks thick to me. Not that I doubt you--it's that I always find errors in my senses interesting. I used a metal rod to stiffen the handle on mine, and my flogger handle is apparently abnormally thin.

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Posted on Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:58 am
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That's what she said?


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Posted on Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:13 am
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Perhaps one of those pump things could make your rod bigger? Very Happy

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Posted on Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:21 am
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Jax25 wrote:
Perhaps one of those pump things could make your rod bigger? Very Happy


They have those for girls too...

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Posted on Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:40 pm
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Hmm. I may have something to add. First, it's possible, that the handle is comparably short; maybe some ring rows longer make it *look* more balanced, even if it's already *practically* optimal. And having made already some experiences, I know that E61, but also Dragonscale handles look shorter and fatter as they are in reality - that's an optical illusion caused by the grain direction producing many lines across the handle's lengthwise direction. So if weaving E61 or DS handles, I make them a bit longer than needed, in the meanwhile.

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Posted on Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:26 pm
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Yeah, that's a very good point, Zili. I didn't go out of my way to make the handle very long because it is my own personal flogger and as I stated above, I have fairly small hands. That probably does add to the illusion that the handle is very fat.

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Posted on Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:15 am
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The nature of the falls contributes to it. In a suede flogger, they'd be thicker. Maille floggers don't need to be. So your eye gets used to seeing suede/leather, and the change of proportions on the falls makes your eye assume that the handle is thinner as well.

But don't let my perceptions make you change it. It looks good as it is, and if you like it that's the important thing. Smile

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