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Posted on Fri May 18, 2012 8:30 pm
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Hi all,

Thanks for having an educational place for me to hang out. It helps a lot.

I've been mailling for just a little while. I would like to make a graduated necklace. How do you go about deciding with the graduating rings? It is a percentage and according to how long the piece is?
Example: I would like to do a 18" byzantine, how would I go about calculating my rings?

Thanks so much, this is a little hard to wrap my head around.

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Posted on Fri May 18, 2012 11:12 pm
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Posted on Sat May 19, 2012 7:28 am
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Nyllynn, are you wondering how many rings you need to make the necklace, or are you asking what size rings you need to do the graduation? I would suggest the largest part of the necklace be in 16awg (1.3mm wire diameter). It depends on how long you want the largest part of the necklace to be, and how many graduations smaller you want to go. 16awg to 20awg is nice. Let me know what you are thinking, and I will be be better able to give you some useful information? Smile


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Posted on Sat May 19, 2012 10:56 am
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Daemon_Lotos wrote:
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Funny, thats exactly what I thought after seeing this thread yesterday evening ^^

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Posted on Sat May 19, 2012 12:35 pm
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It's going to be très difficile to figure out how many rings you'll need, as the number of rings per inch (RPI) will be different for each different ring size Byzantine instance. Also, how many Byzantine units do you want to use before you graduate? Do you want to make it wavy by having several graduations in the chain, or just two (one on each side), by going from small rings at the back of the neck on each side and expanding until the front center is the largest point?

Well, you could do this: supposing you want the small rings at the back of the neck, and the largest ones at the front in the middle, you'd be making two graduations (again, one on each side). Half of 18" is 9". Take the total number of different ring sizes you plan on using and divide that number into 9. This will tell you how many inches long of each Byz section by ring size before graduating to the next size. It won't calculate how many of each ring you need, as that would require another calculation that would require the RPI value for each ring size in Byz.

Just out of curiosity, what ring sizes are you planning on using?


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Posted on Sun May 20, 2012 11:21 pm
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

I thought to practice this I would use an 18 gauge 1/2 hard copper wire in the front of the necklace. I was thinking of doing 3 different size rings in the transition. I'm not so worried about the number of rings in the transition as the size in each transition. I just want it to look like a very smooth transition from one ring size to the other. I make my own rings, so that's not a problem. I guess my real thought was the smoothness of the transition.

I hope that makes sense. I'm a little ADAD (woops, I mean ADHD) Wink
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Thanks again for everything,

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Posted on Sun May 20, 2012 11:37 pm
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Your transition will be smooth if you use closely incremented mandrel sizes.

What's your mandrel availability?


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Posted on Sun May 20, 2012 11:40 pm
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I have a jump ring maker, so I have about 12 different mandrel sizes and they are within .5 of each other.

Thanks so much for your help,

Deb Smile

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