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Posted on Sat May 29, 2010 1:55 pm
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I'm looking to make a Stepping stone bracelet. I want sort of want it chunky but still feminine. What sizes would you recommend? I want to make a 1 in sterling and then sterling with colored nobium. It's for a fall show that I'm doing.

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Posted on Sat May 29, 2010 4:00 pm
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I recommend 1.5mm wire for the large rings 6 - 6.5mm ID, 1mm wire 3.5 - 4mm ID for the medium rings and 0.8mm wire 2.6 - 3mm ID for the connecting rings. This is pretty robust but not too chunky.


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Posted on Sat May 29, 2010 11:53 pm
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Hi Master Mistress of Maille! Would you mind dumbing this down into Imperial sizes as I'm not familiar with metric. Thank you for your help.
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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 12:29 am
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This is very helpful for conversions like this.
http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/articledisplay.cgi?key=98430


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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 12:29 am
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this is going to be your best friend, Diesel:

http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/articledisplay.cgi?key=98430

1.5mm: basically 16swg wire. about 0.06"
6-6.5mm: 1/4" fits there, as it's 6.35mm
1mm: 19swg wire, about 0.04"
3.5-4mm: about 0.15". 5/32" is far in the upper range of this
0.8mm: 21swg wire, about 0.032"
2.6-3mm:11-12 SWG wire, about 0.1"


EDIT: nice timing, Lorraine

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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 1:03 am
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umm convertion charts only usefull for so long. 25.4 and 0.03937

MM x 0.03937 = In
IN x 25.4 = MM

the divition iverition also works.

steping stones tut
http://www.mailleartisans.org/articles/articledisplay.cgi?key=27169


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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 1:19 am
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MaxumX wrote:
umm convertion charts only usefull for so long. 25.4 and 0.03937

Max, I'm curious as to why you say that? The conversion chart gives people the ability to compare ring sizes and wire gauges at a glance, without the use of a calculator. I have found it very useful. And I'm not at all afraid of math. Very Happy


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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 2:43 am
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lorraine wrote:

Max, I'm curious as to why you say that? The conversion chart gives people the ability to compare ring sizes and wire gauges at a glance, without the use of a calculator. I have found it very useful. And I'm not at all afraid of math. Very Happy


tooting your own horn, Lorraine?

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but hey, why not. it's a great chart. i'm one who, infact, finds joy in math, and yet i still prefer the chart. Razz

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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 3:44 am
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charts are good no dought till you need somthing not on them. witch makes them only so usefull. knowing the math always a good thing. i think of it this way

"give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a life time" -idk

i keep charts too, but i'd rather give people the math to do and make charts of there own. then toss them a bone if they need it.


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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 3:49 am
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Fair enough Max. Very Happy I see what you mean.


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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 4:05 am
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well, yea. but this chart gives plenty of room to expand off of for things you need.

but i do disagree with one thing. the proper saying is thus:

give a man a fire and he will be warm for a night. light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 10:52 am
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Using maths instead of tables is fine as long as it's practical. So metric/imperial conversions are easy as there's a simple factor to be memorized. Many other calculations are easy as well, as the AR is simply the quotient of ring ID and WD, so if two values are known the third one can be calculated. But beyond that, it becomes a bit more complicated. While AWG may be calculated, this one needs already a relatively complicated logarithmic formula - that usually needs tables to be looked up, or a calculator. And SWG is nonlinear anyway - without a table to be looked up (or alternatively memorized) you are lost. I guess, a newbie usually won't have memorized them...

[Advertisement mode on, again] Very Happy And as I detest using a multitude of tables and/or need to memorize factors myself, I integrated the most important ones in a tool I found in MAIL's article section, what resulted in THIS, and suffices for all these conversions and calculations. 'nuff said. [Advertisement mode off, until next time...]

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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 3:47 pm
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I'm sure you've found what you need by now but just in case these are the charts I use.
http://www.onlineconversion.com/gauge_wire.htm
http://www.onlineconversion.com/length_common.htm


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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 3:59 pm
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I know that the charts could be my best friend but I'm so not into reading them. I destest math of any kind. I just went by the suggested Ar's on Max's stepping stones tut and have decided to go with 18ga 3/16(4.1ar) and 18ga 1/8(3.1ar) copper just to try this. This should work, should it not before I get into the good stuff, sterling. Is this weave AR finicky?

Thanks Lorraine maybe one day I will use this chart but for now I'm wandering around in the dark. I really really hate conversion stuff from mm to imperial or vice versa! I would rather eat a razor blade! LMAO!!

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Posted on Sun May 30, 2010 4:20 pm
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Diesel wrote:
I really really hate conversion stuff from mm to imperial or vice versa! I would rather eat a razor blade! LMAO!!

Diesel

It's not THAT bad. Especially when previous posters did the work in converting the numbers for you. As far as conversions go, I use this Unit Converter for most things I care to get a number for. No maths involved, just put in the number you have, select your units, and receive the number you want. This was very useful in my physics class last year. The links Legba gave look pretty useful too.

@Zili, where exactly do logarithms come in here? If that is for determining wire diameter, I think most anyone would be better off with a simple table or a good pair of calipers (depending on whether or not the wire is already on hand).

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