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Posted on Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:09 pm
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i dont like CC's for this ither. there all distributive lisenses that realese the work to the public in an unrestricted format that i don't allow. If they would like to use mine ask. i rarly turn people down unless i have cause to.


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Posted on Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:19 pm || Last edited by MaxumX on Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:27 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Think i got this right, tryed righting a T&C for solely hosing authers items this might work better then a CC for most of use. but i'm no law specialist.

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THIS IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT (THE "AGREEMENT") BETWEEN LICENSEE MAILLE ARTISANS
INTERNATION LEAGUE, PURCHASER (IF ANY) AND (name gose here) (The "Auther"),
THIS AGREEMENT APPLIES TO LICENSES ISSUED VIA THE WEB AND VIA LOCAL SALES
REPRESENTATIVES, AND IS APPLICABLE TO ONLINE, DIGITAL AND ANALOG (PHYSICAL)
DELIVERY OF LICENSED MATERIAL. BY ORDERING A LICENSE, LICENSEE AND, IF
APPLICABLE, PURCHASER, IS CONFIRMING THAT IT HAS CAPACITY TO FORM A CONTRACT
UNDER ITS LOCAL LAWS.

1. Definitions. In this Agreement the following definitions apply: 

1.1 "Invoice" means the computer-generated or pre-printed standard form
invoice if any provided by Auther The Invoice shall be incorporated into this
Agreement and all references to the Agreement shall include the Invoice if
any.

1.2 "Work" means any still image, film or video footage, audio product,
visual representation generated optically, electronically, digitally or by
any other means, including any negatives, transparencies, film imprints,
prints, original digital files, or any other product protected by copyright,
trademark, patent or other intellectual property rights, which is licensed to
Licensee by Ayther under the terms of this Agreement. Any reference in this
Agreement to the Work shall be to each individual item within the work and
also to the work as a whole.

1.3 "Licensee" means the entity purchasing a license hereunder or, the entity
specifically designated as Licensee during the purchase process and set forth
as such in the Invoice if any.

1.4 "Licensee Work" means an end product or service that has been created by
or on behalf of Licensee using independent skill and effort and that
incorporates a Reproduction of the work as well as other material.

1.5 "Reproduction" and "Reproduce" mean any form of copying or publication of
the whole or a part of any work, via any medium and by whatever means, the
distortion, alteration, cropping or manipulation of the whole or any part of
the work, and the creation of any derivative work from, or that incorporates,
the work.

1.6 "Rights and Restrictions" means the information available to Licensee at
the time of work selection,Such restrictions may include, without limitation,
the permitted scope of use, duration of license, any territory or other use
restrictions applicable to the work selected, The Rights and Restrictions
shall be incorporated into this Agreement and all references to the Agreement
shall include the Rights and Restrictions.

2. Gant of Right and Restrictions: Subject to the terms of this Agreement

2.1 Auther grants licencee rights of publication of Work as identified in the
invoce, solely to the extent explicitly stated in this Agreement.

2.2 Licensee may not, directly or indirectly, Reproduce the Licensee Work in
any secondary Reproductions, such as compilations, screen shots, in-context
promotions or on file-sharing or social networking websites such as YouTube,
Facebook, MySpace, Bebo, Photobucket, Deviant Art, etc.

2.3 work shall not be used contrary to the Rights and Restrictions.

2.4 If the Rights and Restrictions include website use, Licensee shall post
terms and conditions on its permitted websites that include restrictions on
downloading the work, and prohibit republication, retransmission,
reproduction or other use of the work.

3. Credit and Intellectual Property.

3.1 Copyright. No ownership or copyright in any work shall pass to Licensee
by the issuance of the license contained in this Agreement.   

3.2 Photo Credit, Licensee, must provide credit in the following format
(Auther's Name/Work/Licensee) 

3.3 Notice of Violations. Licensee will immediately notify Auther if it
becomes aware or suspects that any third party that has gained access to the
Work through Licensee is wrongfully using the Work, in whole or in part, or
is violating any of Authers intellectual property rights, including, but not
limited to, Marks and copyrights. 

4. Releases.

4.1 Auther will notify Licensee in the Rights and Restrictions if it has
obtained a model release and/or a property release for work. The warranty and
indemnity set forth in Sections 5.1 below are only provided if and when such
written notification is given. If no such notification is given, then no such
model or property release has been obtained. Licensee acknowledges that some
jurisdictions provide legal protection against a person's image, likeness or
property being used for commercial purposes when they have not provided a
release. Irrespective of whether a model release has been obtained, Licensee
shall be responsible for payment of any amounts that may be due under, and
compliance with any other terms of, any applicable collective bargaining
agreement(s) as a result of Licensee's use of the work.

4.2 Except where Licensee is specifically notified that a model and/or
property release has been obtained, Auther does not grant any right nor make
any warranty with regard to the use of names, people, trademarks, trade
dress, logos, registered, unregistered or copyrighted audio, designs or works
of art or architecture depicted in any work. Licensee shall be solely
responsible for determining whether release(s) is/are required in connection
with any proposed use of work, and Licensee shall be responsible for
obtaining such release(s).

4.3 If any work featuring a model or property is used in connection with a
subject that would be unflattering or controversial to a reasonable person,
Licensee must accompany each such use with a statement that indicates that:
(i) the work is being used for illustrative purposes only; and (ii) any
person depicted in the work, if any, is a model.

5. Warranty and Limitation of Liability.
5.1 Auther warrants that: it has all necessary rights and authority to enter
into and perform this Agreement; (ii) Licensee's use of the work in
accordance with this Agreement and in the form delivered by Auther (i.e.,
excluding any modifications, overlays or re-focusing by Licensee) will not
infringe on any copyrights or moral rights of any person or entity; and (iii)
if a release is provided by Auther pursuant to Section 4.1, Licensee's use of
the work in the form delivered by Auther and in accordance with this
Agreement will not, where a property release is provided, infringe on any
trademark or other intellectual property right and/or will not, where a model
release is provided, violate any right of privacy or right of publicity.

5.2 AUTHER DOES NOT MAKE ANY OTHER WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, REGARDING
THE LICENSED MATERIAL OR ITS DELIVERY SYSTEMS, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION,
ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
PURPOSE. AUTHER SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO LICENSEE OR ANY OTHER PERSON OR ENTITY
FOR ANY PUNITIVE, SPECIAL, INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL, INCIDENTAL OR OTHER
SIMILAR DAMAGES, COSTS OR LOSSES ARISING OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT, EVEN IF
AUTHER HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES, COSTS OR LOSSES.
NO ACTION, REGARDLESS OF FORM OR NATURE, ARISING OUT OF THIS AGREEMENT MAY BE
BROUGHT BY OR ON BEHALF OF LICENSEE OR PURCHASER MORE THAN TEN (10) DAY AFTER
THE CAUSE OF ACTION FIRST AROSE. SOME JURISDICTIONS DO NOT PERMIT THE
EXCLUSION OR LIMITATION OF IMPLIED WARRANTIES OR LIABILITY FOR CERTAIN
CATEGORIES OF DAMAGES.

I herby (The Undersined) Agree to the terms and Conditions of this Agreement.


long thing that give mail the right to display content in a given form and not to reporoduse my work in any other form other then given. least i think it dose..lol

(Edited by Phong - removed extraneous page breaks to help readability)


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Posted on Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:20 pm
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Lorraine wrote:
I don't think I've read anything about forcing people to choose CC licensing in any of the posts where it has been discussed. It's always been suggested as an option as far as I can tell.

And it is not even possible for previously submitted material to "automatically fall under CC". The copyright holder and only the copyright holder can opt to license under Creative Commons.

This is the full version of their FAQ. I highly recommend reading it.
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions


I was not meaning to imply that CC would be forced, but with the way things had been phrased earlier it was a little unclear (at least to me) whether the options regarding CC would simply be which licensing type you wished to use, or whether it would also include an option to opt out of CC in regards to your submissions. Like Onering, I am merely giving my position on CC as a whole.

oneringshortofafullcoil wrote:
... among some of the things mentioned above, is for example ,that perhaps I would like to allow another member to make a M.A.I.L. brochure with my photo on it , the answer is, no I would not, I do not wish to authorize allow others to use and reproduce my submissions , without my express and written consent , if others would, I do not wish to, and as a matter of fact cannot, stop them from doing so, I have given consent for M.A.I.L. to use my submission (by defacto in the submission process) in this format, if M.A.I.L. or any other person/entity would like to reproduce my materials they may contact me and ask permission to do so. I will deal with those requests on a case by case basis.

Certain type of CC liscenses allow for non carbon copies, which by its very nature would allow others to edit my content at will.I would like to retain those rights to my work


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i dont like CC's for this ither. there all distributive lisenses that realese the work to the public in an unrestricted format that i don't allow. If they would like to use mine ask. i rarly turn people down unless i have cause to.


What Onering and Maxum both referred to is exactly what I have issue with as well. If someone wishes to use my work/photographs for something I would simply like them to contact me to ask permission and explain what it is that they wish to use it for. This is partly because, to me, it seems simply courtesy to ask, and also so that I know that it is being used and by whom, where, and why.


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Posted on Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:45 pm
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oneringshortofafullcoil wrote:
Certain type of CC liscenses allow for non carbon copies, which by its very nature would allow others to edit my content at will.I would like to retain those rights to my work

There is a solution to your concerns. You can choose the CC License condition titled "No derivative works". OR you can choose not to license under creative commons, leaving your copyrights exactly as they are now.

oneringshortofafullcoil wrote:
I personally don't have a problem, as long as submitting members have the option , not to fall under the CC, and that previously submitted material does not automatically fall under CC.

My concern about this statement is that you are posing a hypothetical situation that cannot happen. MAIL cannot take previously submitted material and cause it to "automatically fall under CC". Posing this as a possibility only serves to get people upset over something that cannot and will not happen. I can see no good reason for that.

oneringshortofafullcoil wrote:
I am not saying anyone did mention mandatory CC, I am just clearly stating my position on the whole Idea of a CC of the submissions, I would not want my photos put with other text of vice versa, and or editable by others, personally, it is clear to me some other members would like and or be interested in this possibility, I am not opposed to others participating in this as long as it does not include my content, that is my right, I have read the FAQ and the history of copyright is ripe with violators ( I am in no way stating these are the intentions of M.A.I.L.) I am merely stating my position on the subject as a whole, as I felt we were asked at the beginning of the thread.
I apologize if I was unclear or misinterpreted. Smile

Yes, you have every right to keep your copyrights exactly as they are. And allowing others to have the option of choosing a CC license in no way infringes upon that right.

Yes, copyright is frequently violated on the internet. But again, bringing that subject up in a discussion about CC licensing only serves to put the two subjects together in people's minds. CC licensing cannot take away anyone's copyrights. On the contrary, CC licensing is about helping people who wish to share their work. A quote from their FAQ page:
"For whatever reasons, it is clear that many citizens of the Internet want to share their work -- and the power to reuse, modify, and distribute their work -- with others on generous terms. Creative Commons intends to help people express this preference for sharing by offering the world a set of licenses on our Website, at no charge.

oneringshortofafullcoil wrote:
No you misunderstand me, among some of the things mentioned above, is for example ,that perhaps I would like to allow another member to make a M.A.I.L. brochure with my photo on it , the answer is, no I would not, I do not wish to authorize allow others to use and reproduce my submissions , without my express and written consent , if others would, I do not wish to, and as a matter of fact cannot, stop them from doing so, I have given consent for M.A.I.L. to use my submission (by defacto in the submission process) in this format, if M.A.I.L. or any other person/entity would like to reproduce my materials they may contact me and ask permission to do so. I will deal with those requests on a case by case basis.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding this. When you say "and as a matter of fact cannot, stop them from doing so", are you saying that making CC licensing an option will in fact change your copyrights? If so, that is incorrect.

There is nothing "defacto" about the submission process at MAIL as it currently stands. There is also nothing "defacto" about CC licensing. They are both exactly as spelled out. MAIL does not use your submissions in any unofficial way, or in any way you do not specifically allow. So I do not understand what you mean by the term defacto.

Why are you asserting "if M.A.I.L. or any other person/entity would like to reproduce my materials they may contact me and ask permission to do so. I will deal with those requests on a case by case basis."? Of course this is true. This is not in dispute. So again, what good reason is there to pose a hypothetical situation that only serves to get people upset over a possibility that does not exist?


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CC FAQ: "Creative Commons licenses attach to the work and authorize everyone who comes in contact with the work to use it consistent with the license. This means that if Bob has a copy of your Creative Commons-licensed work, Bob can give a copy to Carol and Carol will be authorized to use the work consistent with the Creative Commons license. You then have a license agreement separately with both Bob and Carol. ...............By applying a Creative Commons license to a work, the creator or licensor has decided to clearly signal to members of the public, such as you, that you may use the work without having to ask for permission—provided that you use it consistent with the license terms. "

Lorraine, I believe it's because of statements like the ones quoted above from the CC's website which are what is concerning us. The way those statements seem to read is that with CC licensed work anyone could use it without first asking permission.

Yes, it says the way they use it must adhere with whatever terms are listed for that liscense type. However, if someone uses our work without having first contacted us explaining how they wish to use it and seeking permission to do so, then how are we to know that someone is using it and is adhering to those terms?



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Nárrína wrote:
CC FAQ: "Creative Commons licenses attach to the work and authorize everyone who comes in contact with the work to use it consistent with the license. This means that if Bob has a copy of your Creative Commons-licensed work, Bob can give a copy to Carol and Carol will be authorized to use the work consistent with the Creative Commons license. You then have a license agreement separately with both Bob and Carol. ...............By applying a Creative Commons license to a work, the creator or licensor has decided to clearly signal to members of the public, such as you, that you may use the work without having to ask for permission—provided that you use it consistent with the license terms. "

Lorraine, I believe it's because of statements like the ones quoted above from the CC's website which are what is concerning us. The way those statements seem to read is that with CC licensed work anyone could use it without first asking permission.

Yes, it says the way they use it must adhere with whatever terms are listed for that liscense type. However, if someone uses our work without having first contacted us explaining how they wish to use it and seeking permission to do so, then how are we to know that someone is using it and is adhering to those terms?

Narrina, that's exactly what it is saying. You are freely giving people the use of the specific work that you wrote and/or took pictures of. As an example: I submitted a tutorial for Celtic Strap. As it stands now, each person who wishes to legally make copies of that tutorial and use it to teach a class on how to weave Celtic Strap must first get express written permission from me each time they want to do that. A CC license allows me, and only me, the opportunity to clearly post a legal statement that says, in effect, "You are free to make copies of this tutorial, teach a class, etc. without asking me for permission." There are multiple CC licenses I can choose from, ranging from very unrestricted to very restrictived. I would ONLY choose to place a CC license on the tutorial if I specifically wanted to freely share it. The license is attached to that specific work and does not give people the legal right to copy anything else of mine. If however I want to continue to assert my copyrights as they are now, I would simply do nothing. My copyrights on the Celtic Strap tutorial would continue to exist as they do now. No change whatsoever. CC licenses are a way for people to CHOOSE to share information more freely. It does not involve forcing people to do anything they don't want to do.

As for your question about enforcing your copyrights, it is no different than the way things are now. The only way to know if someone is infringing on your copyrights is to find out about it. You see it on the internet, someone tells you about it, etc. Enforcing copyright is always the responsibility of the copyright holder and CC licensing does not change that.


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Again, please keep in mind that authors will have the option to use CC licenses. If you do not want to use them, you have the option to not use them, or to suggest improvements to them. If other people want to use them, they should have the option to do so. Continuing to willfully spread misinformation could be seen as pot-stirring.

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lorraine wrote:
Narrina, that's exactly what it is saying. You are freely giving people the use of the specific work that you wrote and/or took pictures of. As an example: I submitted a tutorial for Celtic Strap. As it stands now, each person who wishes to legally make copies of that tutorial and use it to teach a class on how to weave Celtic Strap must first get express written permission from me each time they want to do that. A CC license allows me, and only me, the opportunity to clearly post a legal statement that says, in effect, "You are free to make copies of this tutorial, teach a class, etc. without asking me for permission." There are multiple CC licenses I can choose from, ranging from very unrestricted to very restrictived. I would ONLY choose to place a CC license on the tutorial if I specifically wanted to freely share it. The license is attached to that specific work and does not give people the legal right to copy anything else of mine. If however I want to continue to assert my copyrights as they are now, I would simply do nothing. My copyrights on the Celtic Strap tutorial would continue to exist as they do now. No change whatsoever. CC licenses are a way for people to CHOOSE to share information more freely. It does not involve forcing people to do anything they don't want to do.


Lorraine, I believe their concern is precisely that they do not want to give permission (implicit or explicit) to reuse their work. I am unclear whether any of the CC licenses as written have this stipulation; the Attribution part says "only if they give credit the way you request" -- it doesn't say how you can specify 'the way you request', but it might be possible we could list it as being 'you need prior permission from the author'. That would alleviate all the concerns raised here.

Edit: it's also worth mentioning that no license is going to outright stop all content theft/reuse. Fair-use aside, if someone is going to take your content, they're going to take your content. As lorraine correctly pointed out it will still be up to the author to discover and rectify instances of content theft.

In my opinion one of the main inclusions in any revamped content policy is to explicitly authorize MAIL to act on behalf of the author in cases of theft. I would like this to be mandatory for new content, but old content would (unfortunately) have to be opted-in. A difficult, if not impossible task for those authors who have fallen off the face of the earth.

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Phong wrote:
Again, please keep in mind that authors will have the option to use CC licenses. If you do not want to use them, you have the option to not use them, or to suggest improvements to them. If other people want to use them, they should have the option to do so. Continuing to willfully spread misinformation could be seen as pot-stirring.

-phong


No pot stirring is being done. Merely an attempt to discuss and understand what is being discussed. No one is "willfully spreading misinformation," when this thread started, certain aspects were unclear (again, at least to me) and the concerns that if brought up were merely being stated (I believe) with the desire to seek better understanding of what was being meant, especially if there was a lack of understanding/misinformation regarding CC.

Myself and others have already stated that we have absolutely no problem with others having the option to use CC and doing so. It's just that with the way things had been phrased, it was not entirely clear whether the option was to be able to use CC or the options of the various forms of CC. That is, I think, what we were trying to figure out.

Lorraine, thank you for your explanation. Aspects regarding CC and it's usage were not entirely clear on their website.



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Lorraine wrote:

oneringshortofafullcoil wrote:
No you misunderstand me, among some of the things mentioned above, is for example ,that perhaps I would like to allow another member to make a M.A.I.L. brochure with my photo on it , the answer is, no I would not, I do not wish to authorize allow others to use and reproduce my submissions , without my express and written consent , if others would, I do not wish to, and as a matter of fact cannot, stop them from doing so, I have given consent for M.A.I.L. to use my submission (by defacto in the submission process) in this format, if M.A.I.L. or any other person/entity would like to reproduce my materials they may contact me and ask permission to do so. I will deal with those requests on a case by case basis.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding this. When you say "and as a matter of fact cannot, stop them from doing so", are you saying that making CC licensing an option will in fact change your copyrights? If so, that is incorrect.

I am in no way saying that it changes my rights , what I am saying is that if others would like allow their materials to fall under a CC , I would not and cannot stop them from doing so , please read my statements in their entirety.

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oneringshortofafullcoil wrote:
I am in no way saying that it changes my rights , what I am saying is that if others would like allow their materials to fall under a CC , I would not and cannot stop them from doing so , please read my statements in their entirety.


Onering, the way that you had originally phrased your statement was confusing. I read it through three times before I had a decent idea of what you were trying to say. Lorraine picked out one phrase, yes, but it was that phrase that was causing confusion.

lorraine wrote:
Perhaps I am misunderstanding this. When you say "and as a matter of fact cannot, stop them from doing so", are you saying that making CC licensing an option will in fact change your copyrights? If so, that is incorrect.

She didn't say you were saying anything. She tried to guess at a meaning and then address that as a possible issue. Turns out, that wasn't the issue. She just wanted to clarify any misconceptions. So if someone else had that idea, she addressed it. If not, oh well.

I'm not trying to cause problems, I just don't want you to misunderstand her intentions. As I see it, she was just trying to be helpful. However, since I am not her, I shall step aside and let her speak for herself if she so chooses.

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this topic is going to require a lot of patient clarifications from people who understand CCs.. that is the nature of this discussion. i would like to extend a sincere, "thank you" to those people who understand CCs and have been explain them.

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Just so we're all on the same page, the M.A.I.L. content policy reads:

Mail Artisans' International League - Content Policy


Definitions

Unacceptable Content -
Unacceptable content is defined as any image or language that:
1. constitutes clear and present danger of serious substantive evil.
2. contains racial or ethnic remarks, or ad hominem (Latin for "against the person") attacks or descriptions devoid of meaningful content.
3. contains language or material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the M.A.I.L. community, sexual or excretory organs or activities.

Off-Topic Content -
Off-Topic content is defined as any image or language that has no obvious content related to the description and guidelines of the area in which it was presented.



Policy

The content policy of the Mail Artisans' International League is as follows:

1. Any post or submission to the M.A.I.L. website deemed to have unacceptable content will be denied and/or deleted.
2. Any post or submission to the M.A.I.L. website deemed to have off-topic content will either be moved to the correct area or denied and/or deleted if no such area exists.
3. Individual sections of the M.A.I.L. website may have additional content guidelines beyond those in this policy. These guidelines are publically posted in the applicable sections.


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blaise, i believe that the statement:

"I hereby grant Maille Artisans International League rights of publication of my work on the M.A.I.L. site. In cases of re-publication, the aforementioned M.A.I.L. must recieve my prior permission and in said re-publication provide me with credit for my work.
I further understand that as the owner of such material it is my right to have it removed from the MAIL site for any reason."

is also part of this, for it is the policy we use to manage our content... but it's good to have the forbiddens listed just to be clear.


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Posted on Sat May 01, 2010 7:20 pm
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I'm not saying it isn't one of our policies, just that it isn't part of our official, membership-adopted "Content Policy".

We could certainly *add* it to the content policy, but really, as it is more of an aggreement/license than a policy, it should probably be properly maintained as a separate document called something like the "M.A.I.L. Intellectual Property Agreement/License/Contract/wibble".


"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one."

— George Bernard Shaw
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