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Bracelets: HP 5-1 and JPL5x2
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Posted on Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:21 pm
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HP 5-in-1 in 18awg/8.0mm sterling and copper rings.





JPL5x2 (not to be confused with JPL5) 0.8mm wire, 8.4mm ID, AR 10.5, Bronze









This is the first toggle clasp I have made. I really like how it came out.


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Posted on Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:50 pm
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LOVE that toggle clasp!!! Surprised May I steal idea to make in stainless?? Seriously, I am making very simple toggles in stainless and they are nice, but I would like to do something more "fancy". Hrmm, "the Lorraine Clasp"...has a nice ring to it! Coif Smiley



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Posted on Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:14 am
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Lo, outdone yourself girl. Hey, the JPL looks strikingly like viking knit by the way....good stuff!

The clasp is really nice. Does it hold up well?

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Posted on Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:33 am
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Pfeiffer wrote:
LOVE that toggle clasp!!! Surprised May I steal idea to make in stainless?? Seriously, I am making very simple toggles in stainless and they are nice, but I would like to do something more "fancy". Hrmm, "the Lorraine Clasp"...has a nice ring to it! Coif Smiley

That's sweet Pfeiffer, but if you start calling it the "Lorraine Clasp", I will hunt you down and set you on fire. Very Happy Razz Seriously, all I did was wind some wire around some wire and make a toggle clasp. Copy at will. I can't possibly be the first one to have made it.


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No, but seriously...
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Posted on Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:42 am
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The connecting eye on the loop side is different from any I have seen. Interesting way to do it and very strong too, I think. As always, thanks for posting I enjoy looking at your work.



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Posted on Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:43 am
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Carys wrote:
Lo, outdone yourself girl. Hey, the JPL looks strikingly like viking knit by the way....good stuff!

The clasp is really nice. Does it hold up well?

Heh, now that I look at it, it does look a little like viking knit.

The bronze is from TRL. It's pretty springy and takes a lot of effort to bend. So I think it is strong and will stand up to wear and tear. Only time will tell.


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Posted on Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:31 am
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good job on the lorraine clasp!

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Posted on Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:15 am
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Those are beautiful but I too was drawn to that clasp. I make my own but that one is just too cool. The thing I like most is that it has a masculine look so it could be used on mens bracelets. I have a hard time finding masculine clasps for them.



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Posted on Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:48 pm
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That clasp is a well made one, doubtless a piece of jewellery in its own right, but in my personal opinion it's a bit oversized and stilistic somewhat an 'alien element' attached to that chain. At the moment it looks like an eyecatcher, but also as something to snag - usually at the worst moment. So if that was my bracelet I would prefer that toggle clasp being somewhere around two thirds of the size shown here - or even another, less obtrusive type of clasp, not distracting from that unique chain.

Lorraine: Don't feel bad about my opinion, it's only one of a 'gazillion' of possible, different opinions you could read about - so don't worry.

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Posted on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:08 am
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Awesome, weaves and clasp but how the hell do you weave HP5in1 and why is it not in the library?


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Posted on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:38 am || Last edited by ZiLi on Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:13 pm; edited 2 times in total
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HP5-1 is easy if you get it started - it's the same progression to HP3-1, as HP6-1 is to HP4-1. I wove this one (just not as perfect as she did) already, as well as the straight HPs up to 10-1, so I might even appreciate it more than maybe other people. What I didn't get yet is 7-1 - I guess Lorraine will be first here as well.

And I agree: HP5-1 as first progression step of a base weave should enter the library, while higher iterations shouldn't, as the progression principle remains the same - just increase ring AR by 2 to 2.5, and weave... Lorraine should just publish it.

Edit for the doubters: A sample piece done during the last 5 minutes...

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Posted on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:54 am
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ta-da ---->hp5in1 Very Happy

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Posted on Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:29 pm
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Maybe we should/could replace the image - mine shows start and end of the weave, and should make reproduction a bit easier (the 'on-a-wire' method works really well. Very Happy I would allow to use it, if we get cohort's consent for replacement.

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Posted on Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:00 am
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ZiLi wrote:
That clasp is a well made one, doubtless a piece of jewellery in its own right, but in my personal opinion it's a bit oversized and stilistic somewhat an 'alien element' attached to that chain. At the moment it looks like an eyecatcher, but also as something to snag - usually at the worst moment. So if that was my bracelet I would prefer that toggle clasp being somewhere around two thirds of the size shown here - or even another, less obtrusive type of clasp, not distracting from that unique chain.

Lorraine: Don't feel bad about my opinion, it's only one of a 'gazillion' of possible, different opinions you could read about - so don't worry.

-ZiLi-

Zili, don't be silly! I welcome your and anyone elses critiques. I agree, the toggle could stand to be a little smaller. It was the first one that came out looking good enough to put on the bracelet, so that's what I went with. That's the great thing about making findings, you can make them just the size you need. Very Happy


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Posted on Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:18 am
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Legba3 wrote:
Awesome, weaves and clasp but how the hell do you weave HP5in1 and why is it not in the library?

I saw a pic of an HP5-1 bracelet somewhere and thought "that's not in the library". But sure enough it was.

You know how you start off HP4-1 with 3 rings on 1 ring arranged like this?


Well, you start off HP5-1 with 4 rings on 1 arranged much the same way, with each added copper ring stacked under the previous copper ring.


Then continue in the usual HP way by adding a top stack ring (silver) along with a bottom stack ring (copper), keeping the rings stacked properly.



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