M.A.I.L. :: View topic - Euro 4-1 bias?

Tarazed · Posted on Sun May 04, 2003 8:40 pm

Can someone please make a quick tut on how to make e4-1 on the bias? I think I have my mind wrapped around it, but a few pictures of making it would really help, please. Smile

I'm thinking of using it to make a rather large piece, and if it works, it will totally rock!

Thanks. Very Happy

Grace · Posted on Mon May 05, 2003 2:48 am

i have been working on that my self i cant get it to hang evenly so i have been working on aposing grains and such.

dosnt mean it wont work for you i say experament with it

-Grace
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CHAIN_MAILLE_RING/

childofdune · Posted on Sat May 10, 2003 3:03 am

What is "e4-1 on the bias"??? Confused

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cohort · Joined: September 26, 2002 Posts: 509 Submissions: 14

That's where gravity is in a diagonal from the weave.

Easist way to make it would be to build a triangle, then mark one diagonal edge as a reference "top" while you build it around..

Namshaske · Posted on Sun May 11, 2003 3:12 am

4-in-1 hung on the bias? Though I can't think of any practical reason to be doing that, I can see its use in decorative patterns (Such as forming a decorative aluminum vest or shirt out of two halves and seaming them), and potentially for spiralled bracelets. Really, the easiest way I can see producing strips of this as, would be to produce chunks like the 45 degree seam pieces, but have the 'seam' edge on both sides of a strip.

cohort · Joined: September 26, 2002 Posts: 509 Submissions: 14

Maillemaster uses this technique on his micro covered pens. And boy, do they look neat..

Namshaske · Posted on Sun May 11, 2003 5:12 am

I'm going to play with this one, and see what I can produce. Pending results, I'll write an article on my progress and make a finished tutorial when done with it.

Dweezle · Posted on Thu Jul 24, 2003 5:43 am

if any of you are still having trouble with this, here's a way to picture it that might help... try making a small patch of euro 4-1, add rings to one side to make that side a 45 degree angle. now add rings to the opposite side to make that side a 45 degree angle as well, but make it so the 45s are parallel to each other so it forms a parallelogram instead of a triangle. the top and bottom edges can be squared up a bit, but not with a nice ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( strait row of rings like normal euro has at the top and bottom

childofdune · Posted on Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:48 pm

So it's a diagonal piece of euro 4 in 1?
It's pretty good for making belts too. That's what mine is Smile

And when I tried to post I just got this error:

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Confused

(the frownies were not part of the error)

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Bative · Posted on Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:32 am

lol, CoD, i had the same error for like a week when I tried to respond to the sticky post in the knitting circle...

as for the bias thing, its just euro 4-1 built diagonally, and joined up at the end, with a 45 degree seam.

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Brucifer · Posted on Fri Nov 07, 2003 2:41 am

http://www.mailleartisans.org/gallery/pics/254prototypeback.jpg

http://www.mailleartisans.org/gallery/pics/255prototypefron.jpg

http://www.mailleartisans.org/gallery/pics/10458wcprotoshirt.jpg

Above I've posted some pics from our armour gallery posted by lorenzo and halfstranded. Perhaps we should get them in on this discussion?

I for one think the V pattern in the front and back of the shirt is really sharp looking... In fact shaper than the ususal horizontal weave....

I know it won't be as flexible but I wouldn't lend out my shirt or vest anyway....

thanks,
Bruce

cohort · Joined: September 26, 2002 Posts: 509 Submissions: 14

That first vest is made from Trinity, which is a triangular euro weave, and doesn't lend itself to square corners very well..

It does illustrate the point tho...

Brucifer · Posted on Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:06 am

Ok, lorenzos was made with trinity.... but wasn't Halfstrandeds made with 6 in 1?

is there a weave article on this trinity?

Thanks,
Brucifir

cohort · Joined: September 26, 2002 Posts: 509 Submissions: 14

I've no ideer what halfstranded's was, which is why I didn't comment on it.. Wink

There is a tutorial image somewhere on making Trinity, but I no longer know where the link is...

I'd suggest sending Lorenzo a PM about it..

[Edit:]
Geesh, I oughta spend a second or two before I go off and post... I found that derakon has a trinity tut on his site..

http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~cweisige/trinity.html

I would suggest starting with a strip of euro 4-1 rather than what derakon shows, but..

Brucifer · Posted on Fri Nov 07, 2003 4:24 am

Bare with me I think I might be on to something here.....

What if you were to start with a square big enough to fit over your head? Then start weaving a an expansion till you have a small sized mantle (5 or 6 inches out)

Now try it on and turn it 45 degrees so that you have a v-neck in the front... thus making the 45 degree seem go down the center of your chest.

Then stop expanding the square but continue to expand downwards...

Then you would basically have to make some alterations to mak the sleeves work too but hey.... it's a start...

Any additional thoughts?