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Posted on Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:29 am
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Has anybody seen the kind of wire work they do at this site. It's incredible and I have asked for help with certain techniques and no one seems to want to help me. I need to start some where just like they did.

http://metalworkers.org/

This is so different then what I have ever done before or seen. I really don't know how start out. Any help would be appreciate!

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Posted on Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:38 am
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That is incredible and it sounds like they are a close knit community that likes to keep their secrets. However give them time to reply, I should think that stuff is time consuming!

At first look, to me it looks like thin wire wrapped around thicker wire but there's bound to be more to it than that.


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Posted on Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:44 pm
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Actuallly Legba, that's exactly what it is. In a book I read not too long ago, it talked about making rings like that ( don't ask me to remember, I couldn't tell ya what book). You wrap the thin wire around the thicker wire, then you bend the wire into the shapes you would like. Simple as that. As to how much is wrapped or not is up to you.
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Posted on Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:59 pm
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Draco, it's not that easy! Just go to that site that I have listed above. The wire wrapping they do is out of this world. Take a look as I think that you will be just blown away by the talent. I have wire wrapped before but nothing like this!

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Posted on Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:16 pm
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I've seen that kind of wire-wrapping before. There are a few pople on Deviantart that make that kind of jewelry. The stuff is mind boggling to look at.


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Posted on Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:37 pm
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I did look at the site. If I ever remember the book I will tell you. All you have to do is think for awhile about the design you want to achieve and wrap Wink I dont know how else to explain it but it's a lot more simple than you think it really is...

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:06 am
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Nárrína wrote:
I've seen that kind of wire-wrapping before. There are a few pople on Deviantart that make that kind of jewelry. The stuff is mind boggling to look at.


K, I did check out Deviant Art and was gob smacked by the wire work. This is great! Now, maybe if I ask there someone can give me some tips and tricks and not be so tight lipped about their techniques. I mean I will learn sooner or later with many headaches to boot. It would be nice though not to be such a wire wrapping snob such as these people at metalworker.org. Look at Eni Oken a wire wrapping goddess. Yes, she makes money off of sharing her knowledge but I have emailed for lots of help in regards to her tuts before and she's only too glad to help me. Yes, I know money talks. She is so ever helpful though!!! There attitude just sucked! I guess it's the way I view things though cuz anytime anyone needs my help I'm only too glad and willing too help anyone who needs my help. This attitude carries over to the rest of my life too! Life is a way too short so why not lend a hand when you can!!!!!!!!

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Posted on Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:44 am
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Try Art Jewelry Community too: http://cs.artjewelrymag.com/artcs/forums/

I was going to suggest Eni's site, but I see you already know about her. She does have a few free tutorials as well to learn some of the basics, and her other tut's are very reasonably priced I think.

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Posted on Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:26 am
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Great to see you over here, Leo Uber

I have never really worked with this *type* of wire wrapping but looking at my cache of supplies.....I would venture to guess that they use around 26g (ish) wire wrapped around 16g (ish) wire. I have a few mags with articles, want me to scan them in and email them to you this weekend??

While I think some of these pendants are uber neat, I just can't see wire that small Very Happy I have a b*tch of a time with my 24g wire NOW, so I can't see myself venturing into smaller wire or trying to wrap small wire around anything lol!!

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Posted on Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:38 am
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K, got that stupid www.metalworkers.org site again and boy are they idiots. They told my that I had asked for too much help with no contribution. Like what the hell do they want from me all I could contribute would be info about chaimaille and some pix. These guys are real *ssholes and are so full of themselves it makes me gag! They profess to be "all self taught" Ya right!! No one is really self taught. You either book learn or people learn for the most part and some of us will experiment but for the most part it's really not true when you think about it. I'm goiing to take a tut from Remy at http://www.studioheath.com. There maybe I will learn what I need to learn and carry on rather than listen to these idiots saying that crap to me. Very disappointed in them!

Sorry my rant is over!

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Posted on Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:19 am
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You know Leo I kinda got that impression just from looking at their site. I said above that maybe they just don't want to share their knowledge. This also makes me think that it probably isn't as hard as it looks. I suspect they don't want to give you any tips because you'll take to it too well. It certainly makes me more inclined to try it out *two fingers up to them*


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Posted on Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:50 pm
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I got into a little bit of that type of thing (not that complicated mind you but the idea was similar). I coil fine 24 AWG around a 22 AWG wire and then wrap that around an 18 AWG wire and then coil that - then I add to it and then wrap some more, add beads etc... The strangest thing about all that is when I showed some pieces to family, friends and a few shops around my city people were impressed and thought it was lovely but I never really got the WOW factor - that is until I started making Chainmaille. Even some of the more accomplished wire workers I've spoken to at beading stores can't get a handle on how it's possible to make chains out of little jump rings (as they call them). Time and time again I get the WOW how on earth did you make that - it must be soooo difficult, you are soooo talented etc ... It's all about the perspective of others and their lack of knowledge of the art form. It's the classic "once you know how, it's easy" scenario. You never know those guys probably look at the pieces we make and say the same things we are saying about them. Just a thought - it's nearly 2am and I was just musing.

EDIT: You know I just had another look at that site - can you imagine wearing some of that - it's like the clothes you see on a catwalk fashion show - you never actually see anybody wearing it. I'm sorry but it's like they are trying to out do eachother by making things more complex with more beads and even more wire - way OTT - less is more in my opinion and some of that stuff to me is downright ugly - hope I'm not offending anyone here - don't mean to - it's just not to my taste. Funnily enough the piece I was drawn to was a Dragonscale bracelet with little silver balls on each link - clean, elegant and just stunning.


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Posted on Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:23 pm
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i looked at the site too, seems this stuff is too chaotic.

i dont like busy jewelry, that is why i like maille..

check out this ring on etsy. not mine, i just make for gifts. i do have tutorials and books i bought on this kind of wire work.

http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=8483687

i can get info if anyone wants it.

i made a prong solitare ring from gold fill wire and set a pink cz in it. i wear it all the time. the prongs and everything are made from one piece of wire, then a few wraps go on to hold them in place using half round wire.


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Posted on Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:03 pm
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Tutorials are great! We're always looking for tutorials to learn from. We encourage it.

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Posted on Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:31 pm
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I think it's really cool, actually. I'm not sure I'd buy it or make it the same way, but it makes me think of Geiger and I like that. I'm planning a project that will use one of the techniques I saw there with chainmail. It won't be that busy and tangled, however.

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