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Choosing AR
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Posted on Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:58 pm
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I found a way to circumvent my supplier, and am therefore wondering, What AR sizes should I get?

I am currently limited to the following:

AR
8.46
6.15
4.62
(7,09)
(5.27)

I am settling for a primary wire size, 1,3mm.
I was thinking of ordering the following:

AR
3,08 (Close to 3.0, 4/1,3)
3,85 (Close to 3,75, 5/1,3)
5,38 (Close to 5,5, 7/1,3)
7,31 (Close to 7,25, 9,5/1,3)
10,00 (Perfect, 13/1,3)

My AR collection would then be:
3,08 (3.00, 4,00/1,3)
3,85 (3,75, 5,00/1,3)
4.62 (4,50, 6,00/1,3)X
5,38 (5,50, 7,00/1,3)
6.15 (6,25, 8,00/1,3)X
7,31 (7,25, 9,50/1,3)
8.46 (8,50, 11,0/1,3)X
10,0 (10,0, 13,0/1,3)

Is there anything I should change?
The ones marked with X cannot be changed.


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Posted on Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:51 am
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Depends on the projects.

Reguardless of what you have on hand the be project will need something different.
More so with fiddly sculpture or wrapped bits.

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Posted on Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:08 am
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have you tried searching by AR? do you know what you want the rings for? is your goal to sell a diverse ring size collection? i find i like to keep wire around and cut as the needs arise.

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Posted on Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:13 am
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Nothing wrong with having more rings but as losthelm indicated, regardless of what you have you always need something else. You could always look at making your own rings.

While AR variation is alone is good, I'd look for some variation on the WD to add further options.

Have you checked pricing/shipping from Beadsisters in the UK? I can order from TRL so I've never used them, just seen the name mentioned a few times. You could also check with Zili and see what rings would cost from him.


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Posted on Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:43 am
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I'd figure the AR's by weave instead of getting an AR and then determining the weave you'd do -- a bit more general than figuring AR by specific project. I presume you're trying to have an inventory of AR's that will be widely useful. Don't more than a few of the weave tutorials give max and min AR's anyway?

And what Levi touched upon: making your own links calls for three or four tools and a yoghurt container to stash cut links. The only tool needing multiple examples is a number of diameters of metal rod; you don't need the electric drill and the no-hands feedblock apparatus if you are only hand turning your metal rod mandrel. But the drill and hands-free feed block make turning out coils ever so much faster, leaving you lots of time to cut your coils into metal cheerios while watching TV or reading M.A.I.L.

Then at that point you're saving money through only buying wire that your supplier hasn't performed any operations on. Powerwinding coils using a drill is essential for shortening the production time for a 10-kilolink project or larger, in the armor/garment class. Minimizes tedium.


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Posted on Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:51 am
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Wire price and ring price hasn't got enough difference for me to wind My own wire.

Furthermore, bead sisters do not really satisfy me, and is more expensive than My current supplier.

I am currently set on a WD, and I'd like to start there. If this producer is cheap enough, I might order more.

I'f rather expand My AR selection, then choosing weaves first. Should My selection be inadequate, I could correct the AR and choose new sizes.


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Posted on Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:08 pm
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the plan has merit, make it so.

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